Online Day of Action to Stop the War on Women: NARAL Pro-Choice America

Online Day of Action to Stop the War on Women: NARAL Pro-Choice America

Make your voice heard – join NARAL Pro-Choice America’s online day of action now!

There is a rally in Washington, D.C. going on today. It’s a huge day for choice. They’ve declared war on women. Time to gear up.

I’m with you ladies in spirit, and I added a little something for the cause. Keep fighting the good fight.


30 responses to “Online Day of Action to Stop the War on Women: NARAL Pro-Choice America

  • Kendrick Macdowell

    Had some business at the Senate Office Buildings today and saw lots of women in pink shirts!

  • Terrance H.

    “War On Women”? Please. Try War On Unborn Children.

    • Spinny Liberal

      We know how you feel about this subject, Terrance.

    • dcmartin

      Terrence, when elected officials start trying to pass legislation that requires the investigation of all MISCARRIGES as possible homicides, there is a bit of a war on women going on. Bobby Franklin needs a swift kick in the nads.
      Twice.

      • Terrance H.

        I don’t know I agree with that, DC, but I see your point. It is a bit absurd to investigate miscarriages, especially considering the legality of abortion.

        But you guys need to understand what the pro-life lobby is doing. We’re throwing all kinds of stuff at the wall to see what sticks. What does may in fact set precedent to overturn Roe. And I say “we’re” because I volunteer as a legislative lobbyist. Me and another guy in our county Right to Life are working on some pro-life legislation right to give our state rep for introduction. Once it becomes public, the pro-choicers are going to go insane. Trust me!

        It’s not a War on Women, but a war to save the unborn. We’ll stop at nothing to accomplish our goal, within the law of course.

  • dcmartin

    You see, Terrence, we DO understand that you guys are throwing insane stuff against the wall to see what sticks, and it is slimy, underhanded BS like that that taints your movement. I don’t have a problem with pro-lifers being pro-life and working to change the laws when they do it honestly. But when you go the back-alley route (if you’ll excuse the pun), it makes you look hypocritical, and at times, as with Bobby Franklin, certifiably insane. If you want to work to overturn Roe, then do that. But quit with the insurance, tax, and race-baiting subterfuge….it’s unbecoming, and it will be your down fall in the end.

  • Terrance H.

    You see, Terrence, we DO understand that you guys are throwing insane stuff against the wall to see what sticks, and it is slimy, underhanded BS like that that taints your movement.

    This coming from someone who supports the murder of children. Nice. Real nice.

    But when you go the back-alley route (if you’ll excuse the pun), it makes you look hypocritical, and at times, as with Bobby Franklin, certifiably insane. If you want to work to overturn Roe, then do that. But quit with the insurance, tax, and race-baiting subterfuge….it’s unbecoming, and it will be your down fall in the end.

    It’s no secret what the pro-life movement supports, DC. We’re throwing shit at the wall in the hopes that it might help overturn Roe, but that’s not the only reason. We want to reduce abortions and make them harder to obtain. The Left is little more than a bunch of fear-mongering, vicious hypocrites, what with accusing the Right of wanting to “kill women.”

    Get real. And don’t be so quick to cast the stone.

  • dcmartin

    This coming from someone who supports the murder of children. Nice. Real nice.

    Sorry Terrence, but the smug tactic won’t work here.You clearly consider a fertilized, implanted egg a child and a being imbued with full citizenship, etc.., and that is perfectly your right. I don’t. And the law doesn’t. you can call it semantics all you want, and I’m sure you will, but until the fetus is viable, none of those things apply.

    I wish all the people who fight so voraciously for the right fpor a fetus to be born woyld fight just as voraciously for them once they leave the uterus. slashing education funds, healtchcare,social services and yes, even the much maligned welfare programs has a direct impact on children who had no choice of what parents they have and what situation they are born into. I’m not in love with abortion, Terrence, but it is a legal choice that has been constitutionaly upheld.Maybe we should concentrate a little more on the children who are already here who are living in squalor, under-educated,floundering in a broken fostercare system abused, and degraded by most of society.
    or just continue to be the party of “We LOVE fetuses, but fuck them once they’re born”.
    My money’s on #2.

    • Terrance H.

      When are you people going to stop lying? You pretend as though abortions only occur when the child is a mass of tissue. That isn’t the case. You can obtain an abortion up until 24-weeks in most states, and the child is viable at least three-weeks prior.

      You’re little scripted responses don’t work with me, DC.

      Citizenship has nothing to do with whether or not a person has an inalienable right to life. If it did, then I guess it would be legal to kill illegal immigrants, otherwise known as non-citizens. Right?

      And you’re supposed to be some kind of a lawyer? Ha!

      The reality you and other pro-choicers like to deny is that unborn children are human beings, the same as you and me. The only difference is that unborn children are in an earlier stage of development than us. Other than that, they are human beings, therefore entitled to a right to life. And clearly the law grants fetuses some form of that right, otherwise fetal homicide laws wouldn’t exist. Other precedent exists, as well, such as certain statements from our Founding Fathers, and the fact that under English Common Law abortion was prohibited after quickening.

      You must have been sick the day they taught law in law school. Forgive me.

      I wish all the people who fight so voraciously for the right fpor a fetus to be born woyld fight just as voraciously for them once they leave the uterus. slashing education funds, healtchcare,social services and yes, even the much maligned welfare programs has a direct impact on children who had no choice of what parents they have and what situation they are born into.

      An argumentative fallacy beyond comprehension.

      Perceived conservative hypocrisy has nothing to do with the legitimacy of the pro-life movement or our arguments. One has nothing to do with the other. If abortion is wrong, it is wrong independent of any hypocrisy coming from those who say it is wrong.

      Of course, I could go tit-for-tat defending the slash in education funding, healthcare, social services, and so on, but I won’t bother because it has little to do with this discussion.

      I have said before that conservatives and liberals both care about the disadvantaged; we merely have different ideas of how best to go about helping them. I have proved that conservatives give more to charity than liberals, and you ignored it, claiming charities are crooked. I’m still waiting for you to back up that claim, by the way.

  • dcmartin

    “And you’re supposed to be some kind of a lawyer? Ha!”

    Um, Terrence, when did I EVER say I was a lawyer????? Are you truly confused or are you doing some more of that “throw shit and see if it sticks” crap to deflect attention from your shaky position?
    Or are all black female bloggers interchangeable…..one’s a lawyer, so they ALL must be??? What the hell?
    “HA” right back at you.

    “Of course, I could go tit-for-tat defending the slash in education funding, healthcare, social services, and so on, but I won’t bother because it has little to do with this discussion.”
    It has nothing to do with this discussion in your mind, because it’s easier for you to pretend they are not related. Abortion, poverty, lack of education, and lack of healthcare are very much intertwined …..pro-lifers use that as part of their arguments about how certain populations are “coerced ” into abortions by Planned Parenthood, etc., and you can’t have it both ways. If that is beyond your comprehension, perhaps you ought to work on that.

    As for the other conversation, since you were the one making claims first with no citations, I see no need to get sucked into your game, for reasons I already stated. You’re on the internet, man – avail yourself of it. I already have.

    • Terrance H.

      I thought you were the one running around here claiming to be a lawyer. My mistake.

      Please explain how my position is “shaky”? Do you deny that unborn children are human beings? You really shouldn’t get into this with me. You’ll lose.

      It has nothing to do with this discussion in your mind, because it’s easier for you to pretend they are not related. Abortion, poverty, lack of education, and lack of healthcare are very much intertwined …..pro-lifers use that as part of their arguments about how certain populations are “coerced ” into abortions by Planned Parenthood, etc., and you can’t have it both ways.

      One does not have anything to do with the other.

      For one, you’re assuming that throwing money at problems makes them disappear. It doesn’t. Truth be told, the greatest dive into pure socialism this country has ever known (i.e., the New Deal) was an abject failure. It made the economy worse. Fact.

      Second, not all pro-lifers are Republicans.

      Numerous studies prove that many women are in fact coerced into having abortions. You can remain ignorant of the facts if you wish.

      (See:

      1).VM Rue et. al., “Induced abortion and traumatic stress: A preliminary comparison of American and Russian women, Medical Science Monitor 10(10): SR5-16 (2004).

      2).M Gissler et. al., “Pregnancy Associated Deaths in Finland 1987-1994 — definition problems and benefits of record linkage,” Acta Obsetricia et Gynecologica Scandinavica 76:651-657 (1997); and M. Gissler, “Injury deaths, suicides and homicides associated with pregnancy, Finland 1987-2000,” European J. Public Health 15(5):459-63 (2005).

      4)Mary K. Zimmerman, Passage Through Abortion (New York, Prager Publishers, 1977).

      5).Brian McQuarrie, “Guard, clinic at odds at abortion hearing,” Boston Globe, April 16, 1999.

      6). Carol Everett with Jack Shaw, Blood Money (Sisters, OR: Multnomah Books, 1992). See also Pamela Zekman and Pamela Warwick, “The Abortion Profiteers,” Chicago Sun Times special reprint, Dec. 3, 1978
      (originally published Nov. 12, 1978), p. 2-3, 33.

      7). Julie A. Gazmararian et al., “The Relationship Between Pregnancy Intendedness and Physical Violence in Mothers of Newborns,” Obstetrics & Gynecology, 85 :1031 (1995); Hortensia Amaro et al., “Violence During Pregnancy and Substance Use,” American Journal of Public Health, 80: 575 (1990); and J. McFarlane et al., “Abuse During Pregnancy and Femicide: Urgent Implications for Women’s Health,” Obstetrics & Gynecology, 100: 27, 27-36 (2002).

      8). Femicide: Urgent Implications for Women’s Health,” Obstetrics & Gynecology 100: 27-36 (2002).

      If that is beyond your comprehension, perhaps you ought to work on that.

      Don’t be inane. You’re way, way, way out of your league.

      As for the other conversation, since you were the one making claims first with no citations, I see no need to get sucked into your game, for reasons I already stated. You’re on the internet, man – avail yourself of it. I already have.

      Quit with the lies, DC, because they’re only making you look like a damn fool. I replied to something Snoring said. She was quite aware of the study I referred to because we discussed it on my blog the day before. When you jumped into the conversation with your inherent inanity, I provided you with the study as well. I supported my claim. You refuse to support yours because it cannot be, and it really is that simple. You made an idiotic statement you thought might pass as some sort of suitable response and you got called on it.

      As for statements by the Founding Fathers, Terrence, women were second class citizens, blacks were not citizens at all….do you really want to go down that road, because that opens up a whole can of worms.

      Don’t give me that bull shit. Benjamin Franklin and other Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to get rid of slavery, but it wasn’t the right time. Our country was in a precarious situation. Way, way too new for a Civil War; it would have destroyed us and the English would have been right there to take advantage. Use your head, please.

      Women couldn’t vote, sure. That’s an injustice that was corrected through the works of people like Susan B. Anthony, Jane Addams, Dr. Elizabeth Blackwell, Dorothy Day, Sarah Norton, and many others. All of whom, I might add, were totally against abortion, viewing it as a crude exploitation of women.

      Annuit Coeptis: He (God) Favors Our Undertaking. We’re not perfect and we make mistakes, but we’re always striving to be better. It is indeed an undertaking.

      This is not 1776, and things have changed, like it or not.

      What the hell is that supposed to mean? Do you imagine we simply toss out the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and other documents which run contrary to your ideology? Typical liberal.

      In regards to the fetal homicide laws, they vary from state to state and do not always follow the same guidelines/timeframes as abortion laws, and I think that is bogus.

      There is a Federal fetal homicide statue, genius. Perhaps you should research a bit before spouting off.

      As long as abortion is legal, I don’t think you can then turn around and have fetal homicide laws…

      Of course you can’t, because it’s a huge contradiction. That’s precisely my point. The Federal Fetal Homicide statute sets a precedent to overturn Roe v. Wade, which is precisely the reason Planned Parenthood and other pro-murderers came out in force against it. They claim it “elevates the fetus to personhood status.” And, ya know what? That’s precisely what it does.

      You keep supporting Planned Parenthood, founded by the racist Margaret Sanger who wouldn’t to exterminate African-Americans.

      • dcmartin

        “Don’t give me that bull shit. Benjamin Franklin and other Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to get rid of slavery, but it wasn’t the right time.”
        Ok, taken straight from the Michele Bachman?David Barton school of revisionist American History……that explains a LOT.
        “What the hell is that supposed to mean? Do you imagine we simply toss out the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and other documents which run contrary to your ideology? Typical liberal.”
        It means, Terrence, that since the Constitution was written there have been these nifty little things tacked onto it called AMENDMENTS , things that the Founding Fathers did not say but we as a society have realized, over the years, were needed to improve the law of the land. Most people only seem to like to cite the first five, and the hell with the rest. Heck, even John Boehner didn’t realize the Constitution guarantees his pay during a federal shut down.

        If you want to get technical about the citations, and it appears you do, in that other conversation you cited textbooks to “greengeekgirl” (who seemed to think you were kind of internet-stalking her, which you satisfactorily explained) not “snoring”, and there were NO citations addressed to me, just conversation. And The citations you gave to greengeekgirl did more to support her position than yours, so “Quit with the lies….. they’re only making you look like a damn fool…..Don’t be inane. You’re way, way, way out of your league”, yadda, yadda, yadda.
        Spinny seems to like you for whatever reason, and that’s cool….there’s a curmudgeonly old dude on my hometown paper’s message board who is sexist, racist, homophobic, but over the years I’ve come to actually kind of like him in spite of myself. Not saying I see that happening here, just saying I get the vibe with you and Spinny. There may be things down the road that you and I agree on (like the cops macing that unruly kid), but this will never be one of them.
        Period.

      • Terrance H.

        Kendrick, I dissent that it is a half logical talking point.While of course not all pro-lifers are conservatives and not al pr-choicers are liberals, I think you have to admit that in general, pro-lifers tend to be conservatives who are in turn represented by legislators who favor the cuts I mentioned. And the groups that they target in their pro-life campaigns are the ones most affected by those cuts.

        It’s not even half-logical; it’s totally and wholly illogical, and a fallacy to boot. Explain to me what perceived consecrative hypocrisy has to do with the legitimacy of pro-life arguments? If unborn children are human beings entitled to a right to life, as we all are, then this is true independent of cuts in education, welfare, and healthcare. And if I were a Democrat For Life, I ponder what might your argument be then. You’re trying to distract from the issue at hand by ranting typical liberal bullshit.

        Yes, Terrence, Sanger was a racist, and she is also long gone. Planned Parenthood does much more than abortion, though those fighting to de-fund it like to ignore that fact.

        The muttonheads on the Left fail to understand that money is fungible, so the trumpeted Hyde Amendment is rendered utterly moot. Abortions can be and are funded indirectly. The Democrats would rather our troops go without pay than Planned Parenthood lose any money. And why? Because not only does that money indirectly fund abortions, but much of it is funneled into the campaign coffers of sympathetic politicians.

        Sanger wanted to exterminate blacks, and by looking at Planned Parenthood’s numbers, they are well on their way to accomplishing that goal.

        Abortion accounts for three percent of their services…

        Nonsense. 38.4% of their income comes directly from abortions. It is their largest source of income.

        Planned Parenthood and their cabal of minions like to claim that only 3% of their services are abortion related, but that’s not true. That’s a complete and utter fabrication of the facts.

        Every pill, test, exam or other service provided to the woman obtaining an abortion is counted as a separate service, even if it is directly linked to the abortion. So, the numbers are fudged. It’s not true; it’s just another pro-murder lie.

        Ok, taken straight from the Michele Bachman?David Barton school of revisionist American History……that explains a LOT.

        How can you stand to be so ignorant? Go read a book.

        From the National Archives

        January 17, 2006 marks the 300th anniversary of Benjamin Franklin’s birth (January 17, 1706-April 17, 1790). During his life, Franklin had many careers including service as a diplomat, a printer, a writer, an inventor, a scientist, a lawmaker, and a postmaster, among others. In his later years he became vocal as an abolitionist and in 1787 began to serve as President of the Pennsylvania Society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery. The Society was originally formed April 14, 1775, in Philadelphia, as The Society for the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage; it was reorganized in 1784 and again in 1787, and then incorporated by the state of Pennsylvania in 1789. The Society not only advocated the abolition of slavery, but made efforts to integrate freed slaves into American society.

        Franklin did not publicly speak out against slavery until very late in his life. As a young man he owned slaves, and he carried advertisements for the sale of slaves in his newspaper, the Pennsylvania Gazette. At the same time, however, he published numerous Quaker pamphlets against slavery and condemned the practice of slavery in his private correspondence. It was after the ratification of the United States Constitution that he became an outspoken opponent of slavery. In 1789 he wrote and published several essays supporting the abolition of slavery and his last public act was to send to Congress a petition on behalf of the Society asking for the abolition of slavery and an end to the slave trade. The petition, signed on February 3, 1790, asked the first Congress, then meeting in New York City, to “devise means for removing the Inconsistency from the Character of the American People,” and to “promote mercy and justice toward this distressed Race.”

        The petition was introduced to the House on February 12 and to the Senate on February 15, 1790. It was immediately denounced by pro-slavery congressmen and sparked a heated debate in both the House and the Senate. The Senate took no action on the petition, and the House referred it to a select committee for further consideration. The committee reported on March 5, 1790 claiming that the Constitution restrains The committee reported on March 5, 1790 claiming that the Constitution restrains Congress from prohibiting the importation or emancipation of slaves until 1808 and then tabled the petition. On April 17, 1790, just two months later, Franklin died in Philadelphia at the age of 84.

        That’s just Benjamin Franklin. There were plenty of other Founding Father’s who condemned the practice too.

        I know facts are hard for the Left to swallow. You guys are so busy promoting the narrative that white men have been trying to keep the BLACK man down.

        As I said, go read a book.

        t means, Terrence, that since the Constitution was written there have been these nifty little things tacked onto it called AMENDMENTS , things that the Founding Fathers did not say but we as a society have realized, over the years, were needed to improve the law of the land. Most people only seem to like to cite the first five, and the hell with the rest. Heck, even John Boehner didn’t realize the Constitution guarantees his pay during a federal shut down.

        And which one of those AMENDMENTS, in your mind, says women have a right to an abortion? Please point out the words in the 14th Amendment that say this. I’ll be waiting.

        If you want to get technical about the citations, and it appears you do, in that other conversation you cited textbooks to “greengeekgirl” (who seemed to think you were kind of internet-stalking her, which you satisfactorily explained) not “snoring”, and there were NO citations addressed to me, just conversation.

        What the hell are you talking about? GreenGreekGirl was some muttonhead I responded to months ago, citing – yes – medical school text books to prove my point that unborn children are human beings. Those words also appear on a Princeton University page that cites the very same textbooks.

        And The citations you gave to greengeekgirl did more to support her position than yours, so “Quit with the lies….. they’re only making you look like a damn fool…..Don’t be inane. You’re way, way, way out of your league”, yadda, yadda, yadda.

        She claimed unborn children were not human beings and yet the quotes directly contradict that assessment. Do you have any idea what the hell you’re talking about? Or, are you too busy to trying to sidestep your responsibility to make a claim and then, God forbid, back it up?

        Really pathetic.

        Spinny seems to like you for whatever reason, and that’s cool….there’s a curmudgeonly old dude on my hometown paper’s message board who is sexist, racist, homophobic, but over the years I’ve come to actually kind of like him in spite of myself.

        I’m done with you now. You are obviously too ignorant in order to have a meaningful debate on the merits of the issue. Instead you’d rather insult; something you’ve been doing from get-go.

      • Spinny Liberal

        OK Terrance, I didn’t want to jump into this, but dude, DC is obviously not ignorant. And the insulting thing? You just called her ignorant. And “inherently inane.” And “way out of her league.” ❓

      • Terrance H.

        Yes, Spinny, she is ignorant. Apparently I’m a racist, a homophobe, and a sexist. And why? Because I’m a conservative pro-life. I mean, clearly.

        Why haven’t you said anything to her about that bull shit, Spinny? Do you really believe I’m a racist, a woman-hater, and a gay-basher? Get real.

        I call a spade a spade. She makes inane statements and she’s obviously ignorant of simple American history. What has she said outside of the same liberal talking points that have been discredited time and again? “Oh, you’re a hypocrite because you support cuts in welfare spending.” “Blah. Blah. Blah.” “Oh, well, you’re a racist.” Blah Blah Blah.

        Whatever. Try and be fair once in awhile, eh’ Spinny? Your liberal bias is drooling out in record levels.

      • Spinny Liberal

        Liberal bias? Well, duh, Terrance. I’m liberal.

      • Terrance H.

        You are incredibly endearing, Spinny. I couldn’t stay mad at you even if you spit in my face, stomped on my toe, and kicked me in the yaya’s.

        You just have this way about you. I’m really thinking about becoming a Fundamentalist Mormon. It could be fun!

      • Spinny Liberal

        For the record, I’m not FLDS. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Well, other than the child bride thing. 😉

      • Terrance H.

        LOL. Were you really worried someone might think you were after what I said? LOL.

      • Spinny Liberal

        Haha I don’t want to be associated with Little House on the Prairie couture. 😉

    • Kendrick Macdowell

      dcmartin, I think you’ve got the better argument generally, in part because I’m pro-choice — but I agree with Terrance on this one: accusing pro-lifers of hypocrisy because they allegedly care little about quality of life after birth has always struck me as a mean-spirited and half-logical “talking point” designed to divert attention away from abortion debate on its own merits. Moreover, that kind of argument feeds a stereotypical narrative about “liberals” and “conservatives,” and essentially assumes that no liberal could oppose abortion and no conservative could favor choice — all of the issues being so intimately interconnected as to compel, always and absolutely, one camp or the other. As a conservative who favors choice, I dissent.

      • dcmartin

        Kendrick, I dissent that it is a half logical talking point.While of course not all pro-lifers are conservatives and not al pr-choicers are liberals, I think you have to admit that in general, pro-lifers tend to be conservatives who are in turn represented by legislators who favor the cuts I mentioned. And the groups that they target in their pro-life campaigns are the ones most affected by those cuts. I think abstinence is a great ideal, but the reality is, teens are having sex. Does cutting funds for sex education make sense? If the more rabid pro-lifers were really serious about cutting down the abortion rate they should be willing to acknowledge that education and contraception plays a HUGE part in that. Despite the moral outrage, the fact is people have sex, and we need to talk about it. For heaven’s sake the dang GOP leaders in the Florida House just had a national hissyfit because someone said UTERUS in public. It’s 2011, and that is just ridiculous.
        Yes, Terrence, Sanger was a racist, and she is also long gone. Planned Parenthood does much more than abortion, though those fighting to de-fund it like to ignore that fact. Abortion accounts for three percent of their services, but a huge part of the shut-down debate is over de-funding them.Never mind that whole Hyde amendment thing, or the fact that the federal government spent more money on Liberty University than Planned Parenthood……let’s shut the government down because we hate Planned Parenthood.
        That’s not interwined at all. perhaps people will stop viewing them as intertwined when politicians stop intertwining them.
        And I don’t see that happening anytime soon……do you?

  • dcmartin

    As for statements by the Founding Fathers, Terrence, women were second class citizens, blacks were not citizens at all….do you really want to go down that road, because that opens up a whole can of worms. This is not 1776, and things have changed, like it or not. The Constitution has been amended, like it or not.
    In regards to the fetal homicide laws, they vary from state to state and do not always follow the same guidelines/timeframes as abortion laws, and I think that is bogus. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. As long as abortion is legal, I don’t think you can then turn around and have fetal homicide laws and huge civil jury awards ( yes, I do support tort reform, in my NON_LAWYER status. Juries are out of control with their awards that cannot realistically be paid and are eaten up with sky-high lawyers fees).

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  • dcmartin

    ” Do you really believe I’m a racist, a woman-hater, and a gay-basher? Get real”

    I NEVER said YOU were those things, Terrence, I was drawing a comparisson between Spinny’s realationship with you and my relationship with someone else (who DOES happen to express himself in a way that off-puttingly suggests he is those things, but as you get to know him you learn much of it is just poor choice of words)…….adverserial and yet fond. Go back and read it again, Terrence. You infer that I called YOU a racist homophobe sexist because that suits YOUR conservative bias better, and gives you a sense of superior moral outrage.
    I’m a big girl, and I certainly don’t need spinny to come “resue” me from your “evil clutches”…….sad that apparently the same cannot be said for you. I find it odd that all of a sudden you say HER liberal bias is “drooling out in record levels”……. what the hell do you think your conservative bias is doing? Being well contained and kept at a minimum???????
    Check yourself.
    Seriously.

    YOU have been throwing insults left and right, both here and on the other thread, you obviously love to dish it out and then make up shit and cry “she was mean to me” when you take things out of context or mistake who you had an interaction with …..go for it if that’s your shtick when you feel threatened.You go on ad naseum to try to boost your standing with a pomposity that is really pathetic.
    Months ago, Terrence? Spinny posted “My Sonogram Can Beat Up Your Sonogram” on March 7th – one month and two days ago. Unless there’s another post in a phantom dimension with a lawyer you have mistaken for me and someone named Snoring you have mistaken for greengeekgirl, what the hell are YOU talking about????? And yes, your text did more to support her stance that viability IS a key factor.
    Let me give you a dose of your own medicine as I call YOUR spade a spade (and I mean that in a TOTALLY non-racial way) :
    I’m done with YOU now. You are obviously too self-righteous and self aggrandizing in order to have a meaningful debate on the merits of the issue. Instead you’d rather insult and mis-quote; something YOU’VE been doing from get-go.

  • lobotero

    I know there are many that will not want to hear this or they will be convinced that it is some sort of lefty conspiracy–

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/apr/11/fact-checking-claims-about-planned-parenthood/

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