Speaker Boehner, Will You Stop with the Stopgaps?

House GOP Plans 3rd Stopgap Bill to avoid Shutdown

God, this sucks. Is the United States government going to avoid shutdown by Continuing Resolution yet again? How long is this going to go on like this?

This is ridiculous. Boehner has to get through to his Tea Party legislators. He is their leader, and he needs to start acting like it. He should ask Nancy how it’s done. She could get every Democrat to vote in unison against the GOP. How? She scared the living hell out of them, threatening not to back their projects. She is the pitbull in Armani.

Boehner needs to borrow her balls. Or at the very least, her bark.

Harry Reid summed it up:

Tea party Republicans, the Nevada Democrat said, “stomp their feet and call ‘compromise’ a dirty word and insist on a budget that will hurt America rather than help it.”

Whether the Tea Party Republicans like it or not, they control only one leg of a tripod. They have to come up with something both the Senate and the POTUS will sign. That is going to take compromise.

Like the three-year-olds they are impersonating, they are holding their collective breath until they get their way. Is Boehner going to give them their way? Hello shutdown, then. Is he going to stand up? They’ll be pissed, but they might actually get something accomplished.

What’s it going to be, dad?


43 responses to “Speaker Boehner, Will You Stop with the Stopgaps?

  • Kendrick Macdowell

    Not sure this is fair Spinny. The Tea Party candidates were elected with a very serious mandate from their voters to do the hard work on a budget that everybody agrees is seriously out of control — but that, to date, neither party has been able to summon the political will and courage to tackle meaningfully (excepting Paul Ryan). Agree or not with the Tea Party positions generally, I’d say they’re doing what their constituents elected them to do, which is plunge into the hard and often unpopular work of serious and painful budget cutting. If they take a political hit because of their stance, and they well may, to the delight of Democrats, who have no real incentive to take budget cutting seriously, then that will show that America itself isn’t ready for serious budget work, and that our two major parties are rather more like the three-year-old impersonators — deliberately blind to an ever-worsening debt crisis and determined with childlike short-sightedness to bequeath it to our actual three-year-olds.

    • lbwoodgate

      “The Tea Party candidates were elected with a very serious mandate from their voters to do the hard work on a budget that everybody agrees is seriously out of control”

      That’s only partially true Kendall. American voters were just simply angry in general and cast their disappointment by either voting against someone or failing to go out and vote at all.

      One thing I’m sure voters did not ask of the GOP and their Tea Party contingent is to make things worse for working class Americans while enhancing things for wealthier types. Balancing the budget on the back of low and middle income people is beginning to draw reactions from these people who thought they voted for something else.

      Even traditional conservatives realize you can’t balance the budget alone on cuts to welfare spending. There needs to be a combination of reasonable cuts, including the bloated Defense budget, along with tax increases, especially on the wealthiest 2%

    • Spinny Liberal

      Very nicely written (again) Kendrick. They were elected to work on the budget and cut spending. I don’t think the voters were expecting them to possibly shut the government down with their demands.

      $33B isn’t enough for them, which is something the Senate won’t work with. Why even bother with a bill that will make the Senate Dems and the White House say, “Oh hellll no.” They have to be reasonable to get things going in the direction they want to go. I think their constituents will be much more receptive to moving in the right direction vs. our way or the highway. Because things will actually be moving.

  • Don in Mass

    Boehner has no balls. If ever the so-called Tea Party idiots ever did get their way, this country will be in deeper do-do. Where were these clowns when Bush was blew the surplus Clinton left, and then just kept spending money like there was no tomorrow. Well, tomorrow is here, and Obama is still stuck with his mess.

  • Terrance H.

    Typical of the Left. Just keep on spending…

    You should be happy about the continuing resolution.

    The TeaParty shouldn’t compromise. We have been spent into bankruptcy by Bush and now Obama. Someone has stop it.

  • dcmartin

    “The country would be better off if everyone on the Left was voted right out of office.”
    Now there’s the ULTIMATE in pure ideology.
    Thanks for the demo.

  • Snoring Dog Studio

    This is the part I don’t understand. When the Tea Party or the Republicans say, we’ve got to slash the budget, cut Medicaid and Medicare by [insert trillions here], do we ever hear any solution from them about how the people affected by these cuts will manage? Does a TP or Republican follow up their proposal with something like, “Well, when we cut [insert trillion number here] we’ll make sure that …” Have I missed the second part of their budget bill? The part that acknowledges the humans involved and then creates ways for individuals to survive the cuts without becoming bankrupt, destitute, homeless, without medical care? Saying that a certain party is willing to make the tough call isn’t a virtue, it’s not admirable, if their response to the anguish is “It’s not my problem.” This is why I keep referring to Tpartiers and Republicans as being heartless. There seems to be an absence of recognizing the human toll their cuts are going to leave.

    • Don in Mass

      I agree with you, and it seems that the Republicans and Tea Partiers could care less, and just kick the unfortunates out to the curb.

    • Terrance H.

      Snoring,

      I told you on my blog that conservatives believe people should be helped by people, not government. Government is perhaps the most ineffective medium to help those who honestly need help.

      There are families, neighbors, churches, organizations, and, yes, local and state governments that can help people who actually need the help. The Federal government’s role should be limited.

      Conservatives do more for the poor than liberals. But nobody wants to talk about that!

      • dcmartin

        Conservatives donate more to charities, but those charities also tend to use more of their funds on salaries, private planes, and other perks than actually HELPING PEOPLE. Conservatives also attach more conditions to their help than liberals do ( I’ll help you out but you must attend THIS church and patronize THESE businesses) than liberals do.
        Nobody wants to talk about THAT, either.
        In the Tea/GOP world, only Bank of America should get breaks from the government. Corporatins are people, but people aren’t crap.

      • Terrance H.

        Conservatives donate more to charities, but those charities also tend to use more of their funds on salaries, private planes, and other perks than actually HELPING PEOPLE.

        An absurd insinuation which you cannot prove. There are literally thousands of charities. Which charities are you referring to? And regardless of how the charity conducts business, the intent on behalf of conservatives is still the same. Clearly we’re giving more than liberals not to pay someone’s salary, but to help people. Intent.

        Conservatives also attach more conditions to their help than liberals do ( I’ll help you out but you must attend THIS church and patronize THESE businesses)

        Another falsehood. That may happen in some cases, but it’s certainly not widespread. And, again, not all charities are church related.

        Nobody wants to talk about THAT, either.

        That’s because it’s a load of shit you’re using to disparage conservatives.

        Even if you can prove that certain charities conduct business a bit underhandedly – and I dispute that – but even you could, that would hardly be a damning indictment of conservatives, as the intent is to clearly help the poor.

        In the Tea/GOP world, only Bank of America should get breaks from the government. Corporatins are people, but people aren’t crap.

        Nonsense.

      • dcmartin

        All you have to do is use the Google, Terrance.
        Intent is great, but if only 2 of your $25 contibuted dollars actually go to help people, maybe you ought to research the “intent” of the charity you give to….that’s my big point. If you don’t agree, so be it, but that makes you wilfully ignorant, and that’s no great shakes, liberal OR conservative. It’s great to give, but it’s better to actually help the needy rather than the greedy. Have a nice night.

      • Terrance H.

        You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, I’m afraid.

        For one, you have yet to show how many of these charities are crooked. Second, you have yet to show how many conservatives give to these “crooked charities.”

        You use conjecture to justify an attack on conservatives, and yet you have the nerve to say I’m willfully ignorant? Absurd.

        Furthermore, you have provided zero evidence that welfare actually helps people in the long run.

        Justify the Left’s failure to give anyway you like, but the fact remains, conservatives care about poor people just as much as liberals. We merely have different ideas of how best to help them.

        That’s “my big point.”

      • dcmartin

        And your desire to claim that the left fails to give
        Blinds you to the fact that they DO give and they give more often to charities thatgive grater percentages to actual needy people. I’ve had this argument with many a dyed in the wool conservative desperate to hold out that they do more charitable giving that liberals and the government, and all they do is claim bias in the research, so I say do your own.
        And not for nothing, but why is it that you get to state your side as God-given fact without a link of stat to back it up, butanyone disagreeing needs to provide you with a full bibliography? Back to that ideology bug, huh? You can’t have it both ways.
        Yes we do have different ides of how to help the poor and underprivelleged, and that’s America……despite what you may think, conservatives DON’t have a lock on the flag and the apple pie. Now excuse me, I’ve got to go man the watch tower – keeping an eye out so Mike Huckabee doesn’t come force me to listen to David Barton at gunpoint.
        🙂

      • Terrance H.

        Studies indicate that conservatives give far more to charitable causes than liberals. That was my response to the notion that conservatives are “heartless.” Clearly, the evidence suggests otherwise.

        Generally speaking, liberals and conservatives both care about the economically disadvantaged. Where we differ is how best to help those who need help. Conservatives do not believe the government is the best instrument to provide relief, and for good reason.

        Blinds you to the fact that they DO give and they give more often to charities thatgive grater percentages to actual needy people.

        Yet you make another statement you cannot support. Is this how you argue in court?

        “Your Honor, this man is guilty! But don’t ask me to support that conclusion; you need to do your own research!”

        Brilliant!

        And not for nothing, but why is it that you get to state your side as God-given fact without a link of stat to back it up, butanyone disagreeing needs to provide you with a full bibliography?

        My original comment was to Snoring, not you. In the past I have offered Snoring the evidence. Here

      • dcmartin

        Your original reply to me quoted my reply to you in saying I provided no backup, so excuse me if I took you at your reply for what it was……LOL, I never see you reply to anyone else’s conversation.
        Any more contrarian rules I should know about, or will you just lob them at me, insurgent-style, as we go along?
        🙂

  • afrankangle

    Speaker Boehner finds himself in between a rock and a hard place. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Meanwhile, he and others in the GOP continue to misread the November results.

  • Don in Mass

    I’ve had the experience of going to church asking for help. On both occasions, I got nothing but the run around, sending you here there and everywhere else, and the end result, Nothing! So much for that. The GOP and Tea Baggers are the ultimate joke, and could care less about the little guy who is struggling to make ends meet. Its hip hip hooray for me, and screw you.

    • Terrance H.

      And of course your “experience” is a good representative sample we ought use to damn charities in general. Brilliant!

  • Snoring Dog Studio

    I’m still trying to figure out which entities the Republicans believe will help out individuals with disabilities, those disadvantaged by mental and physical issues, elderly folks on a fixed income facing rising health care costs, the homeless, the disparate lower SE individuals, all of the more unfortunate than you and I. I know, Terrance, that you think churches and families will step in to do the job, but who else? Anyone else? Private enterprise? God forbid pure profit motive steps in to take care of autistic adults or individuals with cerebral palsy who cannot contribute to society. I’m waiting for some kind of answer – concrete answer – that will make me feel a bit more confident that it isn’t government’s role to help those that private industry will NOT assist because there’s just not that big a profit to be made.

    • Terrance H.

      Snoring,

      There are tons of private companies who sponsor charities, organize fundraisers, give away products, and so on. It doesn’t seem like enough, but that’s because far too many people sit around and complain about things rather than actually doing something to alleviate the problem.

      Of course I don’t mean you, but you must agree that far too many people are generally apathetic. If more people would step up and do something, perhaps whether government’s proper role is to help wouldn’t be the discussion; it would be a moot point.

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